Saturday, November 22, 2014

Debate: P4P vs. PUA, Which Is More Alpha?


Recently, I came across a debate on a forum that I occasionally peruse whereon one side, some posters believe that it is more Alpha to pay for the company of a woman, while on the other side, some believe that it is more Alpha to go to PUA (pick up artist) bootcamps and utilize their tactics. Given my knowledge of what an Alpha Male is and my beliefs, it is never Alpha to have to pay in order to sleep with a woman. That is not to say that an Alpha does not ever pay, and that is not to say that we do not all pay in some way, whether it be time, money, or some other resource, but an Alpha should be able to score without paying a woman of the night.

On the other hand, most people that attend PUA classes do not reach the high levels of success that they dream of, and many end up right in the same position that they started from. Of course, some of this has to do with not putting in the right amount of work to improve their game, but some of it is due to the fact that the same tactics will not work for everyone, and also that no matter how good one's game is, there are limitations because there are some women that just won't bite for some men no matter what one does (that was a metaphor by the way). However, for the handful of people that do develop their game and find success using PUA methods, I suppose that this would be the better option.

From my perspective, if one finds it hopeless for them to get laid, it is probably better to just pay for it than to waste money on PUA lessons that are not guaranteed to get them anywhere. It is a greater evil to finance another man's lifestyle that will shit on them when one could pay the same money or less to get a sure shot of having it with a woman (that if paid enough might literally shit on them, if that turns them on).

Personally, I do not claim to be Alpha, but I would not want to pay for a woman (other than paying for a date or something along those lines). I do like to win, but there is just something off-putting about going the P4P (pay for play) route, so I do not indulge myself in it. I would not want to attend a PUA camp either though, especially if I had to come out of pocket for it, since I find it even worse to put another man on a pedestal and finance his lifestyle when mine is lacking, which is what I often see in the online PUA community (pretty “Beta” behavior, for lack of a better term). For this reason, paying women for sex wins this battle, although it cannot be classified as “winning.”

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3 comments:

  1. Life is too short. Just do which ever one make you more happy. Believe that you are special no matter what cause that's half the battle. Time and money is the same damn thing. You and only YOU decide which one is most important to you. Don't let anyone steal your happiness from you.

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  2. Life is too short. Just do which ever one make you more happy. Believe that you are special no matter what cause that's half the battle. Time and money is the same damn thing. You and only YOU decide which one is most important to you. Don't let anyone steal your happiness from you.

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